If you notice on the right, taking the no. 1 spot the “Top Posts” in this blog is “A Defense of Absolute Truth”, a message originally spoken by Ravi Zacharias and annotated by the members of a now-defunct blog called “Garage Scholars”. This is my attempt to make Ravi’s argument more clear per his message, which is available here in video form: Ravi Zacharias Speaking To LDS 1 of 7 2 of 7 3 of 7 4 of 7 5 of 7 6 of 7 7 of 7 (h/t to user Reuven Goldstein). For further background, this is the first of a three-part series entitled “In Pursuit of Truth”, given on November 13, 2005 at the University of Utah Mormon Tabernacle. A DVD can also be purchased here.
[Start of post revision/summary and expansion of Ravi’s original remarks]
Sexuality, marriage, stem-cell research, genetics—these things are getting very, very complex. It’s hard to know how to address this tangled subject with meaning and coherence. In today’s modern age, there are two worldviews in conflict: relativism and absolute truth.
This is the nature of truth: we must come to conclusion that truth does matter, especially when you’re on the receiving end of a lie. For example, in a trip to courtroom with family, Ravi witnessed the trial of man accused of raping two minors. After the prosecutor finished, Ravi was certain he was guilty. But then after the defense attorney spoke, Ravi was not so sure of what the truth was. This being a criminal trial, how much more important is it that we understand the truth and the source of truth about life’s essence, meaning and destiny?
Today would be a good day to address this topic.
I was at one point perusing the web to research claims that MLK drew from the example of Ghandi in his push for civil rights, and happened upon this very telling website (written by a black baptist [?] woman). She sets up a very good argument as to why MLK was far from a preacher – he was a heretic with a humanist message.
The site (Jesus-is-lord.com) is unfortunately no longer up and running, as it seems that they have been “preyed upon” by suspicious unknown person(s), and upon an attempt to join the mailing list, I got redirected to a Christian feed directory listing with apparently “1,955,024” subscribers.
This story is almost over. I decided to join one list called “THE ELIJAH LIST,” who’s byline reads (partially):
Find out DAILY what Christian Prophets and prophetic people are saying to the Church and regarding Continents, Countries, Regions and States. When we encounter a mature word that we believe to be from the Lord, which seems to be for the entire Body of Christ, and it appears that this word will either encourage, correct, exhort, edify, (etc) the Lord’s Family, we will put that word out to the whole list now numbering over 130,000 subscribers…
So I thought, interesting. Upon subscribing, though, this is partially what I got:
- Jeanette Reed: “PREPARING FOR THE DAYS AHEAD–WHEN DOES LOVE EQUAL CALAMITY?”
- “Right NOW, You Can Reach an Enormous Audience!”
- “Join Up With God’s ‘Throne Room Company!'”
- JIM DROWN, TODD BENTLEY, JEFF JANSEN, JOSHUA MILLS, and JOHN CROWDER; Feb. 28 – Mar. 3, 2007: Norcross, GA (PLEASE FORWARD TO YOUR FRIENDS)
- “It Has Been Given to YOU to KNOW the Mysteries!”
Needless to say, I would hesitate before subscribing…
Marc, I’ve brought the thread over to my site.
As it seems , there are many names & words for God & Christ, & there are others, was not Elijah God incarnate as well.
The name “Elijah” meant “God is Lord”.
If someone knows where I can find a copy of the Stern report they mention, please drop me a line.
Indeed, with reports like this coming out nearly every day, it’s hard not to be schizophrenic.
via ABC News Online Australia.
The world’s biggest economic evaluation of climate change says if countries do not act now the world will face a depression worse than that of the 1930s.
The report puts the global cost of global warming and its effects at $A9 trillion – a bill greater than the combined cost of the two world wars and the Great Depression. It represents a fifth of the global economy.
4/30/2013 note: If you are coming here from Google, here is the update to this post. I tried to make use of some editing skills to make it more readable.
Reposted from what seems like a now-defunct Garage Scholars blog (argh!). A very good recap of a Ravi Zacharias message, “A Defense of Absolute Truth”, which details why secularism fails to provide a coherent set of answers to the problems of the world (part 1 | part 2).
An interesting anecdotal defense of this point is in the second result of this Google search.
Here’s a gem: Secularization = no shame. Relativism = no reason. Privatization = no meaning. [All three have occurred to varying degrees in Westernized civilizations.]
Original post has been reposted below.
[note: in case you missed it, this is a recap which has taken on a kind of bullet-point form. I’ve reformatted parts of it for readability. If you don’t get parts of it, feel free to comment.
note #2: thread available at Newsvine. I’m thinking about manually importing it.]
On Saturday, March 12, the Garage Scholars, named that day by Robert Grange, held their second meeting and listened to a talk by Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias. This talk was given the day before Ravi’s talk at the Mormon Tabernacle.
A Defense of Absolute Truth
The University of Utah
Sexuality, marriage, stem-cell research, genetics—“these things are getting very, very complex.” It’s hard to know “how to address this tangled subject with meaning and coherence.”
The formatting always gets lost in translation… even with html. Bleh.
The tags are a good indicator of what this thread’s about (maybe will work on a summary later).
A: It’s fine, I suppose. But the longer it takes, the more disingenuous your pursuit of “exposing incompetence”, as it were, will look (recent post(s) nonwithstanding).
J: You put a bit much weight on a tagline…
That’s not just a tagline… it’s also the title of your blog.
…How is this conversation exposing incompetence.
Well, that one should be obvious. The incompetence comes in the form of dogmaticism regarding the “ultimate truth” of science, which is implied from your For Christians page.
The real incompetence is not whether you believe in a god [or not], but what you use that belief for, what objective you try to achieve with that belief.
I can agree if you’re referring to “amoralism”, e.g. in the case of Hitler and Bush. I don’t think proselytising necessarily bring you to the same conclusion.
A continuation of part 3 (reposted for readability, loading time, and the fact I knew it would be intially filtered by akismet). Topics include the probability of mass hallucination (ref: 1st century Christianity | apologetics), Junaman’ s atheistic generalization of rationalism, the scientific method, the fallacy of “rational knowledge”, and reasons why “objectivism” is a fallacy (with brief mention of why the Nobel Prize exists).
Sorry for taking so long to reply…
It’s fine, I suppose. But the longer it takes, the more disingenuous your pursuit of “exposing incompetence”, as it were, will look (recent post(s) nonwithstanding).
First of all, not all religious people claim they have “seen” or “experienced” god,
This is true, but…
secondly the ones who have can all claim they saw different things,
…this is a generalization, which leads you to inaccurately conclude…
no one’s belief is truly identical to another’s, hence is it really a “mass hallucination”, or just different people hallucinating different things.